And when the feminists and liberals say you're degrading your friend the
actress here and you're degrading women by portraying them this way, what do
you say?
They're degrading, no matter what. Everyone gets degraded. I mean, even
if she was a secretary in the office, she's going to get some kind of
harassment, whether sexual or verbal -- you know? So this is normal. Women get
degraded every day, and so do men.
And is this fun for you? I'm trying to get a sense--
I have fun. Like, if I didn't like it, I wouldn't do it. Like, when I
start getting bored is when I start to come up with crazy ideas. I don't shoot
the lovey-dovey porno that you watch all the time. This is for people who
watch porno all the time, and they're sick of the husband and the wife making
love with candles. This is what, if you want to jerk off to fuckin' porno with
your old lady, and you're watching it, and you're getting into it, it's hot,
steamy sex that you, like, after you're done you feel like you just, like, did
drugs. Like "yeah!" That's what it's about.
And where does this come from inside of you? ...
When I was a child, my step-father was an alcoholic. So I think I had
deep issues, and this is kind of therapeutic for me, to take my aggression out
on other people. So in a way, I'm exploiting people, taking all my inner
demons and aggression on them. But it's good for me. So I guess that's all
that matters. ...
This [scene] is going to be pretty violent?
For me it will be. And for other people that are into porno. Yeah.
And when you're done, how will you feel?
Like a weightlift has been lifted off my shoulder. Like, "Ah, I
accomplished something. This is good." I'll feel good. I'll go home to my
mother's house, hang out with my cats and dogs, and have a nice dinner.
So this is a day at the office?
Yes. Until tomorrow.
And when you were out there, and everything was happening, or not
happening, how does that feel to you?
When I'm filming a movie, I'm real stressed out. I'm real "This is
what I want. I have a vision. This is what's going to happen." But then,
like, afterwards, I'm happy. I'm like, "[Sighs.] Did it. We got it. Now all
we've got to do is edit it." So it's a good feeling. I like the stress. Then
at the end, I like when it's all gone.
Now, you know this woman actress. What's her name?
She's one of my best friends.
And you're about to put her through--
Hell.
Why?
She knows me. She's my best friend. I know she can take it. She's a
good actress. And I can abuse somebody that I know, but I can't abuse somebody
that I don't know. So it's like, I know that I can hit her harder.
... She's not prissy. So she would put a good scene out for me. And at the end
I give her a hug, I take her out to dinner, and we go shopping.
Is she going to take a beating, a real beating?
Yeah. She's really going to get hit. She likes it. It's good.
Sometimes, it makes you more horny when you're getting hit. It makes you more,
like, more tingly down in your genital area. You should try it. You should
hit your wife a little bit.
And when all is said and done, how much will she make for today?
She's a contract girl, so she makes different. So she works for us
exclusively, and she makes a base salary a year. So she makes a hundred grand
a year.
That's pretty good.
But that's just singing, dancing -- just that type of stuff. And making a
movie. She gets a box cover -- she gets exposure.
So how many movies a year will she make?
She'll usually probably shoot between two and four scenes a month. It's
six scenes in a movie.
So she's busy.
Yeah. And sometimes, she won't. She'll do a bigger budget movie for us
where she's on the set for four days, until, like, two o'clock in the morning,
and that's the only movie she'll do the whole month.
How hurt could she get? Are you worried about this at all?
She won't get hurt. I mean, not too much. But if she doesn't like
something, she can tell me. She'll be, like, "Liz, I don't like this." And
then we'll stop it, you know? She'll get a little hurt. Well, she does the
wrestling, too. She wrestles. So she's used to getting hurt.
And who are the guys?
Luciano's our contract guy. He works for us exclusively and he directs
movies. And Bryan is another guy that we use a lot. He's just a good friend
of Lucia's. So he works for us a lot.
And what kind of money do these guys make?
Well, Lucia's on a big salary, too, because he makes movies, he edits, he
directs, he shoots cameras. So he gets, like, 150 grand a year. ...
Rob told us that you've done some pretty wild and--
Yeah, I do this series called "Cocktails." And it's where they're made to
suck the guy's cock all the way down their throat, and they puke and vomit and
spit. ...
How do you get them to do that?
I'm a female director, and it's easy for me to go "Oh, come on. Do it,"
you know? If a guy asks, they're, like, "Oh, he's a
pervert." But if a woman asks, they do it.
Would you consider yourself a feminist?
No. I'm not for a woman's rights. I am old school, where I think, when I
have my baby I'm going to be home taking care of it. I'm just making a life
for myself and happy, making good money. I used to be exploited when I did movies. So if someone's going to do it, I might as well. ...
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