Flashback Hunting Bin Laden

the U.S has gotten alittle smarter since 911.Enough TOO KNOW THAT Bin Laden IS BUT A SMALL PART OF THE BIG PICTURE .IT IS THE WHOLE ARAB NATION THAT THE ANGLO AND THE CHRISTIAN BASE RELIGIONS HAVE TOO DEAL WITH.

I'd like to appropriately counter the notion that there is any sort of simplistic "whole Arab nation" vs. western Christian religions. It's that sort of ignorant, uninformed ideological stance that needs to be haulted, and enlightened, because people that hold to such a dogmatic idealistic view of the world are everything that's wrong with it, and here's why.
That view, and any seemingly similar view of any other, takes a large socioeconomic picture that includes international factions and local national postering by various governing structures, each of which is motivated in turn by their own financial and moral objectives, and smears the whole multiplicity of stake holders with an inaccurate color of fundamentalist religion as their driving motivation. This is just speculation, but I bet the likelihood of people of extremely religious Christian faith being more likely to be the ones to take such an uninformed view. Not that every Christian would have such a viewpoint, I'm sure most have a better idea of the big picture for sure, but it's extremely religious Christians that spout that tainted perception of the world.
And now we reach the crux of this whole thing. What is the difference in an extreme fundamentalist Muslim and an extremely devout Christian? Objectively speaking, they both believe in a strict adherence to their faith, both feel that they and their indoctrination are the one true word of God, both feel that their faith gives them the power to thwart evil in the world, evil being anything that doesn't adhere to their specific faith... yes, there is obviously an Islamic fanaticism causing terror throughout the whole world right now. But if religious fundamentalism could've been more globally affecting in the past, it would have. It hasn't changed, it's always been there. "The Crusades" ring a bell? How many wars in history occured, how many people have died, because of a direct result of a motivation derived from a religious contradiction about what is right and wrong by God? We now as a society have the scientific capability to see the reality that facts as defined by the Genesis of almost all the major religions are a bit inaccurate. 500 years ago saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe would get you put to death on the constitute of heresy. Galileo was incarcerated the end of his life for his observances in celestial happenings and labeled a heretic. Science has simply through objective observance extended the historical existence of Earth to billions of years from the dogmatic precep of 4000 years, give or take the ages of those people labeled in the Bible to date back to the beginning of Creation. What are all these dinosaur bones and early hominid bones that seem to fall into an extremely predictable layering of earth through annual cycles that are observable from now til the beginning of earth's actual time of creation?? The devil put it all there to fool us, right? Oh no, we simply shouldn't question God's devices and ways of things, we should just believe in the good book 'X'(you fill in the X with your specific faith's book, Quaran, Bible, whatever), and anyone who disbelieves will have to face the judgement of God... or perhaps you'll act as a vessel of God and do his bidding by trying to blow up planes, or killing abortion doctors, or simply teaching your children that science as observed through objective analysis is actually wrong because the Bible says so. There's nothing wrong with faith in a higher power. I believe it guides us, enlightens us, heals us and lifts us up. But a strict adherence to principles outlined in texts by the best definitive, logical, ethical consideration that groups of uneducated men by today's standards thousands of years ago could come up with is absolutely insane. God didn't empower us as Man to have a definitive answer in front of us. We've only the wisdom and consideration of others to help guide our own beliefs and moral considerations, and thus we should define divinity only for ourselves, and not ever attempt to impose our own personal relationship with a higher power, God, whatever or whomever you choose to call it. If mankind as a whole adhered to that one single principle, the whoooole world would be a better place. Live and Learn

Even if we found Bin Laden and killed him, would it mean the end of terrorism? Absolutely not, it just gets worse.

This is just one big performance for all the world to watch and "think" they know what's going on. I mean do we really believe what we see and read about the news that's presented to us is going to truly tell all?

Create an enemy..if you don't have one already!

We can rant and rave all we want about Bin Laden, polictics, economics etc, but until we understand who the players are and how they are all related, we will never know how and why things happen.

Lastly, why do we think the way we do?
Einstein once said, "what does the fish know about the water in which it lives"?

I say,

"What does the human mind know about the world in which it lives"?

Rooting out terror networks (minds) can be only done by banning islam. On faithfreedom site we have put forth a solid evidence for it.

If we find and kill or bring to justice Bin Laden, it will say to the rest that we will not stop; we will find you. That will help. There may be a temporary backlash, Jim, but in the long run it will help. Further, the reason we are in Afghanistan is because the Taliban would not turn Bin laden over to us. If they had, we wouldn't be there. If we can find Bin Laden, then it will help us get out of Afghanistan; not totally, but it will help.

On the religious aspect, well religion is behind most of the insanity, killing, and destruction that has gone on, is going on, and will continue to go on in the world. A favorite quote of mine is by Arafat, of all people. "My imaginary God is better than your imaginary God."

Josh, the "American Patriot", Good and Evil are relative, not absolute. The acts of destruction by religious fundamentalists are acts of good in the eyes of the fundamentalists, and bad in the eyes of others; relative to the viewpoint. For example, there are many "American Patriots" fighting to deny equality to gay people who want to marry. One can dive into the "good book" (pick one) and say that homosexuality is bad, but the very nature of the founding of our country and the changes this country has gone through to work toward that equality says differently. We abolished slavery, we gave the right to vote to Women, we ended "separate but equal" (segregation), we have moved forward with civil rights, and now we face the pious religious bigots who can't seem to figure out that this nation was NOT founded as a Christian nation, and who must stop this "evil" of equality.

I want to say, "Hey - Tea Bag This!" but I am not sure how to work it in.

And now for the Bush dig. Thanks for taking our attention of Afghanistan and Bin laden so you could go to war with Irag and fill the coffers of Haliburton, KBR, Bechtel, et al, with massive public wealth. Just like the Congress is about to fill the coffers of the private insurance companies with massive public wealth disguised as subsidies.

I am sure bin Laden is laughing, where ever he is, at how we have wasted the wealth of this great nation. Oh, but he didn't really do it. He helped it along, but this has been going on for 30 years. Suggested reading - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein.

Do you know what the difference is between Christian religious fundamentalists and Islamic religious fundamentalist? Body count.

If you go all the way back in history including the Crusades, the rise of Islam, the Inquisition, current Jihadists, bombing abortion clinics and kill doctors and nurses, etc, I am not sure who is ahead.

To paraphrase: "It is uninspected belief, stupid."