Well, I will comment this far on that issue and that is this. Animals are taken into a drive fishery for the purposes of being killed to be eaten. If I as a veterinarian can save an animal from being killed to be eaten, I think I have an obligation to do that and I -- if I have the opportunity. I don't care whether it's -- whether I have to go grab it and release it or carry it off to some pool and put it in a pool to save its life, -- I'd be happy to do that.

NOW, YOUR CRITICS MIGHT ARGUE THAT AS A HIGH-PROFILED PERSON, WITH GREAT CREDENTIALS IN THE FIELD, THAT YOU SHOULD BE LENDING YOUR AUTHORITY AND YOUR INTEGRITY TO TAKING A STAND AGAINST THAT FISHERY.

I think I just said that.

IT MIGHT BE ARGUED THAT BY TAKING ANIMALS FROM THAT SOURCE, YOU LEGITIMIZE THE PROCESS AND YOU MAKE IT FINANCIALLY WORTHWHILE TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT.

I think that what I said is the case is that if I have an opportunity to save an animal's life that I feel as a veterinarian, that's my -- that's my task in life. So I really don't see -- you know, I can fight against it politically and still save an animal's life. Just because I save an animal's life by taking it out of a drive fishery where it's going to be killed and eaten doesn't mean that I condone the aspect of the -- of the dry fishery. I don't care if it's any kind of fishery. The drive fishery is really not an inhumane way to catch animals-- in my estimation; however, the fact that they're killed and eaten afterwards is in -- in my estimation not the thing to do. And so, I would say that if I had an opportunity to save the life of an animal under those circumstances, I'd be happy to do it.

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT A PROCESS WHICH INVOLVES SCARING THEM HALF TO DEATH, DRIVING THEM UP ONTO THE SHORE IS -- EVEN IF THEY AREN'T KILLED AND EATEN AFTERWARDS ---

No, I said that the drive fishery process is not necessarily an inhumane process. Driving them up on the shore and killing them and eating them is, in my opinion.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S KIND OF A MARGINAL POSITION. I MEAN --

Oh no, not at all. You know, if you have ever been involved in -- in seeing animals slaughtered -- you know, I've been - I've been to slaughter houses and seen cattle slaughtered and I've seen sheep slaughtered and I've seen chickens slaughtered and turkeys slaughtered and we -- you know, they're eaten all over the world today. Just because it happens to be the culture in certain parts of the world to -- to eat marine mammals, you know, that -- that's something that I disagree with,but that's -- you know, it may be politically incorrect, -- but that's the way life is around the world.

FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, LET ME READ SOMETHING TO YOU. A DR. TOSHIO KASUYA--JAPAN FISHERIES. 'THE REASON FOR THE DRIVE CIRCUIT CONDUCTED IS NO LONGER PURELY AS A PREDATOR ERADICATION. THEY ARE DONE FOR PROFIT. MEAT FROM THE SLAUGHTERED ANIMALS SOLD AND OTHER ANIMALS ARE SOLD TO... ' I MEAN, HE'S SAYING VERY CLEARLY THAT ---

Meat from the slaughtered animals is sold to be eaten, exactly.

AND THE PROCESS IS OKAY?

No, -- don't take words and put them in my mouth. I explained this to you twice now and this is the third time. I'm going to say it one more time. The drive fisheries process of capturing animals is not necessarily an inhumane process. The process of driving them ashore and slaughtering them and eating them is, in my estimation, not the thing to do.